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I've finally decided to get around to making some barb wire. It's something that I would like to have a lot of to do scenarios and demo games. I like the BF wire but at about $10 per piece I don't want to spend over a hundred bucks to get a bunch. My army collecting focus has been Normandy and Italy so wire is a must for any D-Day games. I'd also like to try using the 1st FJ from Cassino as a fortified list in the future, wire is sure to feature in it.

I grabbed some scrap wood I had. I always seem to have some junk like this around. Using my saw I cut it into 2"x8" pieces and sanded the edges. 19 pieces is what I ended up with.

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It's what we call in the homebuilding business a cabinet skin or panel. It's plywood with a finished veneer on one side.

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Here's the beast that made it happen.

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The radial arm saw is a pretty versatile tool. Some times I wish I had a nice chop saw and a table saw but I would not have a drill chuck built in. The drum sander makes quick work of the edges.

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All ready to go I like to prime my terrain work. The one side is already finished so I'll just prime the one. It's a good idea to do so because once you start adding all kinds of moisture via your glues and craft paints your material can warp. The primer reduces the amount of moisture entering the wood.

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I like the Krylon primer for terrain, its darker gray than the Rustoleum. The Rustoleum was suspect because I may have left it in the garage on a freezing night, so labeled it for terrain. It turned out fine for the first pass. I do swear by the Rustoleum for priming infantry. It covers awesome, is quite close to white, has excellent shrinkage, and is affordable. Vehicles I am still using army painter black but I may try some thing different in the future.

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A couple dead soldiers.

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Hey! How'd that bocage sneak in there! Ready for the next step.

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I'm trying to finish 3 sections before vacation as a prize for our Ranger efforts in Operation Overlord. Cheers! More to come.

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Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:46 am
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Nice start. I have access to an entire woodshop at work and i LOVE using the belt sander!
Its perfect for giving a nice beveled edge to acrylic sheet ( footprints for a wood,rivers etc. )
I'm going through the exact process but instead for Rommel's asparagus. ( basswood this time )
I saw that your radial arm has a drum sander, my jaw dropped, i think i'm gonna have to get one now for home.
can't wait to see the progress.

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Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:40 am
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Nice tutorial.


Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:53 am
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I'll be interested to see what type of barbed wire setup you go for.


Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:26 pm
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Before I jump to the next step I thought I would do a image search on google and see what came up. Of course the Battlefront wire came up.

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I like it but I think I'll do something different.

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Hey!, thats not the kind of barb wire I was thinking of.

Some thing more like this:

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Or this:

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Or my favorite: Careful dude.

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And low and behold WWPD regulars ancietysociety and Modeldads also came up.

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http://empireofghosts.blogspot.com/2012/05/tutorial-making-barbed-wire-and.html

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http://www.modeldads.co.uk/Life-at-the-Front/wordpress/?m=201203

These are some great tutorials on how to make barbed wire. Much more planned than me, I'm going to figure it out as I go but, I definitely will incorporate some of their techniques. Both these guys are prolific posters and great contributors so, follow their Blogs!

I've got this stuff I am going to use:

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It's probably not enough but lets see how far it takes me. I marked out some of the bases so I know what to do. I am setting 3 aside to do later for my US Combat Engineers, they will be on rubble like the Joe's. Some will have craters from artillery barrages sand some will be pretty standard. Creating a scale model of barbed wire at 15mm is pretty impossible so these will be representative of barb wire entanglements.

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The first three will be a prize for our first night of Ranger organized Operation Overlord.

http://www.meetup.com/NCWarhammer/events/124851812/

I'll keep these pretty standard and consider them test models. I think its going to be a great prize because everyone uses a supply truck at some time but many people don't have the wire to get the full benefit.

I think I have settled on making something like the first picture with simple verticals and coiled wire along the dunes. I was watching Darq play Company of Heros 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4WudGw1Vv4A#t=153s and liked the way the wire looked as his Soviets constructed it. It had sort of angled verticals alternating directions. Sometimes all it takes is an image or a thought and off we go.

More to come!

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Looking good so far - I'm hoping to do something similar to spruce up my fortifications... :D

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The Overlord campaign is coming quick and I need to get this prize done, so back to work I go.

I've drawn some lines and drilled small holes along them at alternating angles for my stakes. Nothing too precise as these are semi-hastily constructed wire lines constructed by pioneers.

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The stakes are round toothpicks that I have cut down so the stake height is about chest height on a man. Seems about right. I chose toothpicks over bamboo skewers as they were smaller in diameter. I figure about the size of a mans leg is the limit to what these pioneers would cut and move to use.

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I put a dab of white glue in each hole.

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Inserted cut toothpicks into each one and set to dry in the hot Colorado sunshine.

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That dried really fast. Some of the holes may have been drilled through accidentially but that is of no matter once dried into place they can be sanded off on the back side. I'll probably use sticky felt on the bottoms so it will never be seen. Now next is giving them some texture. If you don't have a big bottle of Elmer's you are not making enough terrain!

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I'll use Elmer's and Scenic cement for the next steps. I've read that you can just water down your white glue to make a scenic cement alternative but I have never tried. I didn't want to spend the time to do that as I am in a slight hurry and heck I have the stuff already and have had great results.

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I have two types of texture I am going to use. One is walnut shells left over from the beach table. I think it came from a pet supply store as some sort of animal bedding. Sand could easily be substituted. The second is model railroad fine ballast from Woodland Scenics.

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I've covered the entire piece in white glue but not putting any on the edges purposefully. If some gets on the edge no worries. I use a hobby brush and a cup of water to spread the glue evenly. Squirt the glue on then dip your brush in the water and move the it around until its spread evenly more or less. No need to water it down and mix it. The wet brush helps keep things moving and prevents it from gumming up too much.

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I sprinkle the fine texture around the stakes. That is where the pioneers have recently excavated the holes and will probably be devoid of vegetation.

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The course texture covers the rest.

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I gently press the texture down into the glue and set them to dry in the sun. Once dry I spray them entirely with Scenic Cement. This stuff works great and almost nothing falls off once dry.

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I prime them black. I suppose you could skip this step and move right to painting. The primer will help bond the texture even more. This Krylon primer has worked fine for me with terrain. I have never used it on models (anyone?) Before I primed them I took my hobby knife and made some small cuts and shavings into the stakes so they would not be uniformly round. It's imperceptible in the photo.

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Next we will be on to painting.

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One of the things you are going to want to have is a notebook to keep track of how you paint things. You never know when you may want to add another team or platoon and want to duplicate a paint scheme. Write things down you'll thank yourself for it later.

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Now for painting this barbed wire I am going to use a paint scheme that is in large part copied from Mike at BF in his Pimp you Bunker Series. I am going to try and reproduce this:

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Using this:

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I don't want to use all my good (expensive) Vallejo paints on terrain so I will be mixing using a lot of these colors:

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First off I find as close a color spray paint I can for the base. Rustoluem is my favorite. Notice the respirator mask, use one, again you'll thank yourself for it later. You'd be surprised how much you can inhale.

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All dry ready for drybrushing.

Start with a heavy drybrush of 3:2 Brown/Spanish Olive. These craft paints came from Michael's. Of course I don't remember this, I'm referencing my book ;). Next: Drybrush 2:3 Brown/Spanish Olive. Finish with: Drybrush 2:1 Tan/Spanish Olive.

Here it is in steps from the bottom up.

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Paint the posts 1:1 Brown/Golden Brown and highlight with some tan. Paint a dot on the top of each post. (Not shown in below picture) The pioneers left the bark on the trees so the lighter inner wood shows on top and down the sides here and there. You'll see that in later progress pictures.

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Next I hit it with 2 coats of gloss.

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Followed by a single coat of dull. There is some debate about whether gloss is more durable than dull in an acrylic but I just hit it anyways. Irregardless, more coats = more durable. Note however that I do NOT use the Rustoleum in the dull coat. I have found that the Rustoleum dull is very frosty and do not use it any more. Use the Krylon dull, it works much better.

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Once dry I put sticky felt on the bottoms. I love felt on the bottom of figures and terrain. It provides just enough friction on a gaming mat were things do not slide around and makes it feel complete, all sides. I hate it when my teams start sliding down a hill or someone bumps some terrain it it moves around. I'm using this stuff from Michael's for terrain. Use the thinner stuff from Hobby Lobby for your infantry and gun teams. It's best to put it on now before you add a lot of flocking and decoration as it needs to be firmly pressed on. Magnets...Felt...I say in an wiseguy accent "Do whatever you want."

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Roughly cut it to size.

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And stick it on. In this picture you should be able to see the painting of the lighter inner wood of the post.

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Press it firmly on. Take a sharp pair of scissors and cut around the terrain piece being careful to not scrap the paint off the edges. Touch it up as required. It is going to be a bit sticky on the edge. Press it on firmly around the perimeter. Our final application of dull coat will seal it all in later and take the sticky edge away.

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Now, What the Flock!, that's next. Here's my stuff. I'm winging it at this point and hope it comes out alright. I do not want it to be a verdant summer look so I choose burnt grass Woodland Scenics turf and autumn Silfors. I may add some other flock colors or some static grass if it turns out crap. I also will drop a few bits of clump foliage on them, it's ever falling off other terrain so I have a little tray of it.

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I cut some painter's tape and stick it on where the Supply Wagon drove through building this infantryman's nightmare.

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I spread my white glue on a little thinner with water being careful to not get too close to the posts.

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I sprinkler the burnt grass over everything and gently press it down after a few minutes.

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After a few minutes I pull the tape before the glue dries it on.

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After an hour of writing these posts I shake off the excess and you are caught up as of Sunday evening. Deadline Thursday.

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I finished the barbed wire. I must apologize for the ginormous images. I don't know what happened but I went back and edited previous posts with smaller photos. I think something is going on with imageshack, I have not had this problem before and the prior posts seemed fine but now had some insanely large pictures.

Next I sprinkled some lighter colored flock on the sections and bits of clump foliage. This process was very frustrating for me and did not turn out how I had hoped at all. Oh well it was a learning exercise. I carefully glued the clump on with superglue. That turned white on me so I had a lot of redo until I got to a passable look. It all got sprayed with scenic cement again.

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Next was the wire using these tools and materials.

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I wrapped the wire around a pencil to make coils.

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I made a reddish brown wash and dipped the coiled wires into it. I spent way too much time trying to make the wire less shiny. I messed with Vallejo brown shade and craft paint washes.

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Next I threaded wire through the coils and attached it to the posts with the wire itself and superglue.

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I got them all wired up. It took all evening. I watched (listened) to the entire Two Towers while working on it. I had to go back and try to wash the straight wire. It was a pain and paint really did not stick well, again spent too much time. One thing that did help was an intermediate blast of dullcoat that seemed to make the wash stick on much better.

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I washed the tracks with some Vallejo brown shade and sealed with a final dull coat.

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And there they are. The Rangers ended up doing something different so they are ending up as mine.

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The next batch I think I will try to use static grass and silfors.

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The best thing I can really say about how these turned out is they are serviceable. Since then I have made 6 more sets using a different method which I am very happy with. So stay tuned for an upcoming post on my blog.

On a side note ImageShack has made some improvements to their site and seemed to fix the gigantic pictures problem. I've gone through and edited the picture links to clean up this thread and make it viewable. I popped for a years subscription.

Be sure to follow me and add me to your reader so you won't miss the update.

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Those look great. Good job and thanks for the tutorial

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Very very cool, thanks for the detailed post it's appreciated.

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Great tutorial gives me hope
of doing this for my pioneers.

Very nicely done!

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This was the last thing I had to complete for Genghis Con and it came Down to the Wire. Check out the Blog.

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What an awesome and great looking project!!!


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Nice job going to use some of these pictures and ideas on my obstacles

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Outstanding! I will definitely refer to this when I work on wire obstacles!

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